‘Unfair’ GP values

Thank you for answering, and I’m really glad you are working on it.

Maybe good to realise that HE doesn’t really counts theGP’s according to your own rules…

  • the number (and size) of the beds in your home - which is linked to the general size of the home and how many guests can stay in it >>>>> in lots of casas there is no relation between number of beds and size of home. Sometimes a flat in Paris of 60 m2 offers 6 beds (a put up bed, a crib etc) and for example my house offers 130m2 and just one big bed for two. I really think size should matter. But for HE only the number of beds matter…
  • the location of your home - based on the distance from the nearest tourist sites >>>> is this calculated bij HE or are members themselves the judges of that…
  • some of the amenities you have added to your listing - for example, having a pool or a garden will increase the GuestPoints value of your home >>>> I hope this will be evaluated with care. Some aminities deserve to be calculated again, like fast wifi which ‘everybody’ likes has no value at all, and the ecofriendly amninities don’t have any value (not even if you can cehck all the boxes) which is strange for a B.Corp.

Good luck!

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I live in Amsterdam but my house is not availible for more than 30 days a year… there is a limit to my vacationdays… So the GP"s are still important. And furthermore it’s a principle point, I’m not just complaining for my own benefit…

Some items really do add value on their own. If I add a kids play ground I get 29 points extra. If I delete my dishwasher (!!!) I don’t get less points (and it doesn’t matter whether I keep the playground…). And I do understand we can not satisfy everyone but some of the calculations are really strange and unfair…

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I would also think reciprocal is best for long stays but I am just not sure why you would lower the points for longer stays. You still have to have somewhere to go where you are going to have to use points to cover the number of days you are gone. It probably depends on how many points you need to do that. As for having the house occupied that is really a personal preference. Some people find such long exchanges desirable but some are fine with only some occupancy during their absence. Less calls, less possible issues.

ok I think we don’t understand each other, that’s not what I wanted to say, but English it’s not my first language, so no problem. Your opinion stays in this page anyway. Don’t forget to vote about it if you want. bye

I hear you. I think it is a matter of personal views and circumstances. I have two homes on HE, so I don’t necessarily have to be on an exchange, and using points, when I host an exchange. For lowering points to host an extended exchange for GP, to me it is a bit of a ‘mercantile’ analogy, like the idea of a ‘baker’s dozen’, buy 12 buns and I will give you 1 free, buy 2 or 3 and it is full price. I just feel daily guest point values really add up when we are talking about one or more months and it can be more sensible to adjust the daily value; it still represents a large amount in the end.
For occupancy, from an insurance perspective, I always prefer occupancy. Many home insurance policies in North America become invalid if the home is not visited at least every 7 days. Finding someone to do that can be quite complicated, and an imposition on friends and neighbours.

Dear all. I initiated this suggestion and I think we can put this thread aside for now. We have ascertained that admin are aware of this concern / suggestion and that they had already been working on reviewing the points allocation system to be ready in a few months.
As someone mentioned please ‘vote’ at top of thread. In hindsight I now see that the idea is to post a suggestion and others vote and discussion is not really essential in this category.
Happy exchanges :pray:

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I had a case I felt the house was undervalued - I asked them to add another “week” to my 4 weeks stay , and topped the 25% i felt they deserved.

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I do same.

Hello GcSydney

It’s seems it is based on the size of the place.
Appartments in a highly wanted destination (Paris, London, NYC) value less GP than a house with no public transports far from a touristic destination.

In consequence, i often exchange one week for 2 weeks in a big house.
If you are placed in a very wanted destination, you can negociate a longer time or bigger place when you exchange.

I use GP only for very precise needs. Countries where there are a very few listings and/or precise dates.
Next month i’m going to a city where there is 1 listing.
The nearest big city is 1,5 h driving.
Out of that, for hosts who are in a touristic or wanted places, a reciprocical exchange can be more interesting.

I have just joined HE Collection. This has enabled me to increase my points valuation. All properties in Collection have the base point valuation increased by 50%. I can simply diminish or negotiate down as needed
Big extra membership cost though US$1000

No, in our case our house with pool is 207 GP, if I take the pool away, save the changes and reload the page, it is still at 207 GP.
Makes absolutely no difference.

I did not read all the comments so apologies in advance if already mentioned but the GP system is very odd. They also do
Not adjust for seasonality (I don’t think they do). A place Alps in winter vs summer is priced very differently. As is a place on the French Riviera. It is worlds apart yet GP is static. I suggested some time ago they “scrap” info from various comparable sites (to extent legal and who cares they all do it all the time hence how they train AI) and base GP off of that and make it dynamic. Easy enough to see how much in $$$ a comparable
Place is going for in Airbnb or Booking.com and price the GP accordingly. Would require a fairly easy algorithm. Or even easier leave it up to the host to do it and give them autonomy to do it. If someone wants to charge 5X GP for a place relative to it’s worth then should be up to host and guest to figure that out. Guest can easily look at airbnbs and get a sense of value or other uE options. Yeah the GP thing hardly reflects true value (can be up or down but not as accurate as it could be).

I find it interesting that they don’t want to do seasonal valuation because in monetizes stays. However you can pay HE $1000 and get your value increased because you are a collection member. Why is a house as a collection member worth more then not as a collection member? Its inconsistent.

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I agree.

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Is HE a for profit company? If yes, then it is because it makes HE more money to be able to sell GPs essentially as it costs them nothing.

yes, I get it, it costs them nothing.

Amazing information.

Can I sell my GP ? I`ve got 2020

No. Forbidden.

can I give them away as a present ?